Talk:Pashtuns

Error in demographics. No Pashtuns in india

This figure of 3,200,000 is erroneous and is not accurate. They are not recognized or accepted as Pashtuns nor do they follow the Pashtun code of honour or language. Can we please keep this article factual and not full of half truths. 2607:FEA8:1323:EC00:7DBC:974D:1DA2:157A (talk) 18:22, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

That's your opinion. They are of Pashtun descent even if they don't speak the language anymore. Akmal94 (talk) 23:13, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Its not a matter of opinion. The cites source is basically a tabloid statement coming from someone claiming to be a relative of Frontier Gandhi. There is absolutely no mention of this person anywhere besides a handful of Indian tabloid sources. Its utterly unverifiable and I encourage you to provide any sources or estimates of Pashtun origin population in Modern India. KamranHassanUK (talk) 23:19, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Sikh Pushtuns

I implore someone to add them on the religion minority column thank you https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/22267/PK 126.189.45.73 (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

sorry bro sikhs are not Pashtuns they are Punjabis. They are just living in Pakhtunkhawa and speaks pashto but they are by blood and by ethnicity they are Punjabis.. 39.33.127.114 (talk) 12:49, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2023

In this sentence:

The city of Karachi in Pakistan is home to the world's largest urban community of Pashtuns. larger than Kabul and Peshawar.

Please change "Pashtuns. larger than Kabul" to "Pashtuns, larger than those of Kabul". Right now, the second element is an incomplete sentence. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 04:06, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 07:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2023

In the sentence I quoted in the previous section, please change "larger than Kabul" to "larger than those of Kabul". (The previous request was only partly accomplished, by fixing the punctuation error alone.) Right now, the article is in error for the following reason:

• The source's latest data says Karachi's population is 15% Pashtun
• Karachi says the city has roughly 20 million residents
• This means that there are roughly 3 million Pashtuns in Karachi
• Peshawar says the city has roughly 2 million residents
• Kabul says the city has roughly 5 million residents
• Karachi's Pashtun population is larger than Peshawar, but 2 million smaller than Kabul.

The source is talking about Karachi having the largest Pashtun population of any city worldwide, but it's not comparing Karachi's Pashtun population to the entire population of Kabul, as the current sentence does. Therefore, the current sentence should be changed to reflect the source correctly. 123.51.107.94 (talk) 23:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done Pinchme123 (talk) 02:13, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Disrupting

@SouthAsianEdits Can you please explain why are you removing sourced facts? Pashtuns are Eastern Iranic group. If you have a statement to make let's talk about it here. Afghan.Records (talk) 14:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

October

@Aman.kumar.goel I modified your addition and trimmed the line "Before the Islamisation of their territory" to "Before Islam" because 1) it looked too wordy and POVish 2) the source only says "before advent of Islam", so looks like a misrepresentation too. Moved it around to where discussion about non Muslims actually begins so it looks due and not out of place. The religion heading is covered under the "Culture" section anyway, so obviously the present circumstances are due. (Side note: some sources you added are SYNTH too since they speaking of "Pashtun areas" not Pashtun themselves, these sources could also mean Dardic people)

The language section was based on sources cited too. I removed one source which spoke of Afghan refugees in Pakistan because it looked undue/irrelevant for infobox. Another source explicitly states "Indo-Afghans speaking Hindi and Punjabi" which is why I added "and other regional languages" after Hindi (significant numbers identity with Urdu as well, but no sources here hence covered in other regional languages). Urdu may have official status and a large number of speakers in India, but Hindi has no official status or significant documented speakers among citizens in census records of Pakistan.

Lastly, the Pashto speaking numbers for Pashtuns in India was cited too, no idea why you removed those. I wasn't expecting it would offend anybody, I just copy pasted it all from the long-standing lead version from a few weeks ago lol

Anyways, I will not editing here or anywhere for a long while, just thought I leave a comment here for clarification. . Kiu99 (talk) 19:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Pashtuns aren’t Iranian

! 174.92.132.77 (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

I believe you have confused the term Iranian. Which is both a nationality and language family. Pashtuns aren't Iranian nationals, but are considered one of Iranian peoples. Afghan.Records (talk) 16:56, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

This article

Is inaccurate they are a lost tribe unknown from where they originated from.. 174.92.132.77 (talk) 22:32, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Not all Pashtuns are pastoral.

The article conveys the idea that all Pashtuns are pastoralists but that's far from truth. Many notable pashtun tribes are historically and still agriculturalists so it should be noted. Pukhtun zalmai (talk) 17:08, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. Only the Kuchi are and they make up about 5% of the Pashtun population. The citation for that statement is from Khushmand who is an Hazara writer with a bias, who also goes on to state to use terms like "Hazaraistan" and making assumptions that "Pashtun nomads" kicked out Hszaras out out of thier homeland to settle themselves. Why would nomads need land anyways? I hope someone of more knowledge can fix that in the future because all my edits on here get reverted without reason. Akmal94 (talk) 23:38, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2023

The total number of Pashtuns should be corrected to around 62 Million if we add all the Pashtuns 40+18 million in Pakistan and Afghanistan and around 4 million across the world as mentioned below it in different countries. 94.109.225.23 (talk) 09:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 05:41, 30 November 2023 (UTC)